John Cage:They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for
something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love
sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything
more than what they are. I don't want them to be psychological. I
don't want a sound to pretend that it's a bucket or that it's
president or that it's in love with another sound. I just want it
to be a sound.
Krizan: Creation comes out of imperfection. It seems to
come out of a striving and a frustration. This is where, I think,
language came from. I mean, it come from our desire to transcend
our isolation and have some connection with one another. It had to
be easy when it was just simple survival. “Water.” We came up with
a sound for that. “Sabretooth tiger behind you!” We made a sound
for that. But when it gets really interesting, I think is when we
use that same system of symbols to communicate all the abstract and
intangible things we’re experiencing. What is “frustration”? Or
what is “anger” or “love”? When I say “love” the sound comes out of
my mouth and hits the other person’s ear travels through the
byzantine conduit in their brain through their memories of love or
lack of love. They say they understand, but how do I know? Because
words are inert. They’re just symbols. They’re dead. You know? And
so much of our experience is intangible. So much of what we
perceive cannot be expressed. It’s unspeakable. And yet, you know,
when we communicate with one another and we feel we have connected
and think we’re understood I think we have a feeling of almost
spiritual communion. That may be transient, but it’s what we live
Professor Paul Fryexplores the work of Jacques Lacan. Lacan's interest in Freud
and distaste for post-Freudian "ego psychologists" are briefly
mentioned, and his clinical work on "the mirror stage" is discussed
in depth. The relationship in Lacanian thought, between metaphor
and metonymy is explored through the image of the point de capiton.
The correlation between language and the unconscious, and the
distinction between desire and need, are also explained, with
reference to Hugo's "Boaz Asleep."
Frank Zappa:Alright, um, as you know, I'm not the kind of a person that
reads books, I've said this before many times, I'm not fond of
reading. But, I do, I have in the past made exceptions, and uh, one
of these exceptions was this part of the, the book that, I'm sure
you know, called Naked Lunch, and I've received permission to read
the part about the talking asshole. So . . .
McKenna: A language which could be seen would be a kind of
telepathy. If you could see what I mean you would see my thought.
The way we communicate, small mouth noises and the assumption of
shared dictionary, an assumption that is never borne out by careful
questioning, is a miserable way to communicate.